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Old 02-03-2008, 12:46 AM
zachd [MSFT]
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Default Re: Canon Digital Camera - Motion JPEG - Won't Play in WMP/WMC


Right, I'm pretty unaware of any filter management systems that are designed
to be used by an average user. This is not a "average user" area. This is
why the proliferation of bad codecs, filters, and codec packs is so
dangerous. This was never designed to be toyed with by the average user.
The whole system assumes that developers were going to be responsible. =\

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"PapaJohn" <papajohn@chartermi.net> wrote in message
news:u7BJ6fWZIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> thanks... I'll search for such filter management systems. In all my years
> of working with Movie Maker, I've not come across anything that is a tool
> for users rather than programmers.
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> "zachd [MSFT]" <zachd@nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23e0iV%23TZIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
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>> "PapaJohn" <papajohn@chartermi.net> wrote in message
>> news:eCwpzfSZIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks... but you don't say why the codecs supplied with the operating
>>> system take a back seat to the 3rd party ones when they get installed.
>>> Seems that stronger operating system management of codecs would be a
>>> step toward resolving things, and would be an appropriate thing to
>>> expect from an operating system..

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>> You're right, I did not discuss the filter merit system, which is
>> available for look up on MSDN. That's been around since I believe
>> DirectShow first existed back (previous to 1996?). Belligerant and bad
>> filters are a *very* recent phenonemon. The right people are aware of
>> this issue. In the interim, there's a variety of third party filter
>> management systems available.
>>
>> The easiest correct solution is probably not to install random bad
>> software on a machine. ;-)
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>> This area sucks. The right people are aware of it. It sucks because you
>> have bad filters being installed by incompetent installers. I was going
>> to make a comment about the Windows codec management system, but then I
>> realized that wasn't fair because there really hasn't been a good
>> (Microsoft) one ever. The right people are aware of this. Don't install
>> random codecs.
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>>> And what WMP shows for the video codec isn't an idle question... I'd
>>> much prefer having WMP tell me what it's using than to have to check the
>>> file with GSpot or another utility and guess what WMP is using. And I'm
>>> using the pointer in WMP to tell me what Movie Maker is using, as the
>>> properties of the files in MM don't include the codec used.

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>> IIRC, it's abstracted out - there's no "DirectShow::WhatCodecAmIUsing();"
>> method that I'm aware of. Patrick looked into this a while ago, I'll
>> mention it to him next time we have lunch together.
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>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
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